You ask: Who is a Murid?
Muslims say: if you have a question seek the answer in Quran and Sunnah!
The word does not occur in Quran or Sunnah, in its current context. The concept, as it is practiced in established Sufi traditions, is foreign to Quran and Sunnah!!
It is foreign, and truly foreign. It implies practices that stand directly in opposition to the practices of Quran and Sunnah. For instance, Quran will invite your intellect and wisdom to grow and be exercised. The Pirs or Murshids are usually discouraging the exercise of intellect and wisdom. And if you pick up the Sufi writings that seek to justify this practice, they are always long and winding, so as to take you on a roller coaster ride after which you are dizzy and confused.
The mere fact that you ask this question seems to imply to me that dizziness and confusion in your mind.
Just pick up the Quran with an open mind, have no fear, and let your intellect and wisdom imply a life for you as it parses the Quran. Consult every source along the way, but let your intellect and wisdom have the final say. Never mind the fear factor that intellect is faulty, it will mislead, and all that. Quran will not leave you hanging. When you rely upon Quran, you rely upon Allah, and Allah’s ways are more infinitely pleasing than of any pir or murshid, in the conventional sense of these words.
Yes I say it from my experience. But as you travel this path, it will become obvious that Quran means this practice., or something else which, in terms of varying personalities, is equivalent. But you should do what you discover in the process. That is Allah’s message tailored for you.
Salaam Whisper Sir
How are you?
Thank you very much for your response.
Actually I was trying to understand the characteristics of a MURID or Seeker. And I wanted to gain a new perspective on people.
>It implies practices that stand directly in opposition to the practices of Quran and Sunnah.
I think I did not understand that correctly. Could you please elaborate or give some examples?
>The Pirs or Murshids are usually discouraging the exercise of intellect and wisdom.
You meant Pir or Murshid of THESE DAYS, am I right?
>Just pick up the Quran with an open mind, have no fear, and let your intellect and wisdom imply a life for you as it parses the Quran…
This is a new food for thought. Thank you very much! Honestly I have only one tool which I can use with an open mind and that is Science. Previously while reading Quran I found myself extremely bias and narrow minded. So I had to stop and wait for Allah’s Guidance. I still wait. But if I can go on with Science with a curious, open mind then why should it be so difficult in the case of Quran. Thanks, I will surely review this.
Dear Shahid,
Salaam.
As you follow the journey, the questions will arise and answer themselves. This is how the nature of journey is.
Just act on what you see on this journey, for that is Quran talking personally to you.
I will not address the questions therefore. However, the confusion of using an open mind for sciences, and not doing so for Quran. That confusion is foreign to Quran. It arises from a unnatural attitude towards Quran. Both the orthodox Islam and Sufi Islam share this unnatural attitude.
I have tried to address this problem, and show a unified approach to sciences and Quran. If you find time to read it, please find it at the dropbox link below: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96132916/Being%20Oneself%20%20-%20A%20Discourse%20%2B%20010716.pdf
If you seek, you shall find.
Could only refer to ibn arabi
الهي أردتني و أردت مني * فأنا المراد و انت المريد”
فخذ مرادك مني * حتى تكون انت المراد و أنا المريد
Which I would tentatively translate as:
‘My God, You willed me and You commanded of me (desired from me);
So then, You are the Murid,
And I, the object of Your Will (the Mourad).
Please, take that which You desire of me,
So that You become the Mourad – the Object of (my) Desire,
And me, the Murid – the seeker of (Your) Desire’
Dear Abdus Shahid Shakir,
You ask: Who is a Murid?
Muslims say: if you have a question seek the answer in Quran and Sunnah!
The word does not occur in Quran or Sunnah, in its current context. The concept, as it is practiced in established Sufi traditions, is foreign to Quran and Sunnah!!
It is foreign, and truly foreign. It implies practices that stand directly in opposition to the practices of Quran and Sunnah. For instance, Quran will invite your intellect and wisdom to grow and be exercised. The Pirs or Murshids are usually discouraging the exercise of intellect and wisdom. And if you pick up the Sufi writings that seek to justify this practice, they are always long and winding, so as to take you on a roller coaster ride after which you are dizzy and confused.
The mere fact that you ask this question seems to imply to me that dizziness and confusion in your mind.
Just pick up the Quran with an open mind, have no fear, and let your intellect and wisdom imply a life for you as it parses the Quran. Consult every source along the way, but let your intellect and wisdom have the final say. Never mind the fear factor that intellect is faulty, it will mislead, and all that. Quran will not leave you hanging. When you rely upon Quran, you rely upon Allah, and Allah’s ways are more infinitely pleasing than of any pir or murshid, in the conventional sense of these words.
Yes I say it from my experience. But as you travel this path, it will become obvious that Quran means this practice., or something else which, in terms of varying personalities, is equivalent. But you should do what you discover in the process. That is Allah’s message tailored for you.
Salaam Whisper Sir
How are you?
Thank you very much for your response.
Actually I was trying to understand the characteristics of a MURID or Seeker. And I wanted to gain a new perspective on people.
>It implies practices that stand directly in opposition to the practices of Quran and Sunnah.
I think I did not understand that correctly. Could you please elaborate or give some examples?
>The Pirs or Murshids are usually discouraging the exercise of intellect and wisdom.
You meant Pir or Murshid of THESE DAYS, am I right?
>Just pick up the Quran with an open mind, have no fear, and let your intellect and wisdom imply a life for you as it parses the Quran…
This is a new food for thought. Thank you very much! Honestly I have only one tool which I can use with an open mind and that is Science. Previously while reading Quran I found myself extremely bias and narrow minded. So I had to stop and wait for Allah’s Guidance. I still wait. But if I can go on with Science with a curious, open mind then why should it be so difficult in the case of Quran. Thanks, I will surely review this.
Dear Shahid,
Salaam.
As you follow the journey, the questions will arise and answer themselves. This is how the nature of journey is.
Just act on what you see on this journey, for that is Quran talking personally to you.
I will not address the questions therefore. However, the confusion of using an open mind for sciences, and not doing so for Quran. That confusion is foreign to Quran. It arises from a unnatural attitude towards Quran. Both the orthodox Islam and Sufi Islam share this unnatural attitude.
I have tried to address this problem, and show a unified approach to sciences and Quran. If you find time to read it, please find it at the dropbox link below:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96132916/Being%20Oneself%20%20-%20A%20Discourse%20%2B%20010716.pdf
If you seek, you shall find.
Could only refer to ibn arabi
الهي أردتني و أردت مني * فأنا المراد و انت المريد”
فخذ مرادك مني * حتى تكون انت المراد و أنا المريد
Which I would tentatively translate as:
‘My God, You willed me and You commanded of me (desired from me);
So then, You are the Murid,
And I, the object of Your Will (the Mourad).
Please, take that which You desire of me,
So that You become the Mourad – the Object of (my) Desire,
And me, the Murid – the seeker of (Your) Desire’