Reply to Shakir on Qidam

Salaam Shakir

You wrote earlier:

1 . Are we going back to Qidam again?
In other words , are Qidam, Akhirah, Azal the same terms?

Per Nasafi’s writings, there are only 2 realms, spiritual realm (Malakut) and this world (Mulk). Qidam, Akhirah, Azal are the same, however the way we voyage causes discernment. Different people, different experiences might cause different views.

To understand their sameness we could rely on the grammar of the Qur’an to investigate :

This verse is about future, Akhira, the Hereafter, the other world, notice “Allah SAID to Jesus”, in past tense!

5:116 And Allah SAID: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say to men, `Worship me and my mother as deities beside God’?” [Jesus] answered: “Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! It would not have been possible for me to say what I had no right to [say]! Had I said this, Thou wouldst indeed have known it! Thou knowest all that is within myself, whereas I know not what is in Thy Self. Verily, it is Thou alone who fully knowest all the things that are beyond the reach of a created being’s perception.

وَإِذْ قَالَ اللّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَـهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللّهِ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلاَ أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلاَّمُ الْغُيُوبِ

Akhira and Qidam in past tense…

What does that mean? Past tense is free of potentialities, it is free of probabilities, it happened a certain way and finished that one way. Any realm free of potentiality and probability therefore has the texture of experience of past tense! Akhira has no potentialities, therefore it has the feel of past tense, while it is still the future for us now.





2 thoughts on “Reply to Shakir on Qidam”

  1. Salaam Sayyidi

    In Quran, there are more verses that follow this pattern. Usage of “PAST TENSE while indicating the FUTURE “.
    Does this pattern always emphasise the fact that the said event is UNIQUE?

    When I think about PAST,it never cease to amaze! For example, every time we see the Sun, that is the image of the Sun eight minutes and few seconds ago. And there are billions and billions of stars that carry the image of deep past to our eyes. Sometimes I feel that we are always in the past.

    Qidam is free of potentialities and probabilities, Al Akhira is free from potentialities and probabilities. Therefore the PAST TENSE has been used! Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge.

    1. Salaam Shakir

      You wrote:
      Does this pattern always emphasise the fact that the said event is UNIQUE?

      I cannot qualify a proper answer, so we need to keep this in mind and investigate. It might be a life-long investigation.

      All what you sense are in the past, when you see something, hear a sound, feel a touch or scent of something, they are all in the past, or better to say immediate-past.

      Each cell in our body has many clocks and timers. For its own longevity has a timer at the very end of the chromosomes which un-tangle and loosened chromosomes fade away and cell dies.

      There are many other such timers and clocks in our bodies and in our neurons and in our mind.

      Our college education and now the retail science books published by vastly well-funded American publishers, paint simple primitive views of time and universe, and only propagate one dogmatic view of any subject matter, specially in sciences.

      For that matter, it is best to learn from non-retail non-college based sources e.g. NASA data repositories or national genome and molecular databases.


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